Cultural Notes

#1522

A few years ago, I’m not sure exactly when, some rule somewhere changed, so now school districts do not have to provide bus service to students that live within 2 miles of their school. It seems that triggered a mad rush to build schools (especially elementary) in the middle of neighborhoods. Though, in fairness, some were already in neighborhoods, like the one down the street from me. But, in the past 5 or 6 years, the helicopter parents problem has become so much worse; doubly so if it is raining. Sometime mornings, I can’t get out of my street because of the half mile long line of cars waiting to drop their one kid.

“Back in my day”, when I went to private school (too many miles away to walk or ride a bike to), I carpooled with some other kids that lived near me. We had to know what all the parents’ cars looked like, and look for a number on the visor to confirm it was the correct car. It wasn’t rocket surgery. And everyone knew not to step off the sidewalk until it was our turn. They don’t seem to grasp that concept anymore.

Also back in my day, after we moved to Texas, in middle school, the years that I chose to ride my bike, I did so regardless of the weather, even when it was freezing, or as close to it as we get.

And another thing… when did school zones get expanded to cover, like, a half a freaking mile or more away from the school? I think the school zone ended about 20 yards down the road from my middle school. I just checked Google maps… Ok, maybe it was like 50 yards, but still, it is only a half a block away from the school property. That was plenty.

#1523

Agreed… and strongly.

My commute to and from HS was an hour…
1/2 mile walk at each end (no matter the weather unless completely snowbound), plus a 30 min (if conditions were good) bus ride.

Elementary was only the 1/2 mile walk… well, maybe a little less.

I rode the bus along that route to and from HS so often…
(How often was it?)

I was riding the bus homeward one afternoon senior year (12th grade), standing as often happened because of lack of seats.
I glanced out of the window, idly wondering where we were.

I KNEW WHERE I WAS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZED THE WALLS UNDER THE SHOP WINDOWS.

Yeah, the little 18 inch bits of painted brick… no names, no shop logos or signs… the freakin’ bottoms of the buildings.

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#1524

I remember walking to kindergarten with my mom (about 3/4 of a mile) and walking by myself or with a friend from 1st grade on. Junior high was about a mile away, walk or bike, high school was about two miles away, and guess what? I walked. Yes, there is a very small risk of a child getting snatched, but there were usually packs of kids, and we were taught to avoid strangers.

I find it appalling when I read an article about a parent getting arrested because their child over 7 or 8 was found walking by themselves in a known area. Teaching a child to be able to make decisions and do things for themselves is what parents are for, isn’t it?

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#1525

Yeah, they have a special name for it these days, “hands off parenting” or something equally stupid.
Back when I was growing up it was just called “parenting”. Or more likely, it wasn’t called anything at all because it was just what parents did

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#1526

I’ve had students fail my classes because they are so accustomed to people doing things for them, constantly reminding them of due dates, and taking every dumb excuse they come up with as a reason for an exception. They are often surprised when they actually fail after I’ve told them several times that they were going to unless they changed their behaviour.

I had one student who couldn’t get himself out of bed in time to get to class despite the fact that his parents had rented him an apartment two blocks from the school. I had another who cried when I informed him on the last day that yes, he had in fact failed. Their parents did them no favours by doing everything for them and making sure that nothing negative ever touched their lives.

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#1527

I always either walked or rode my bike. Senior year of high school, I got a car so I drove.

#1528

The term you are looking for is “free-range parenting”

You’re welcome.

I am a free-range parent now that they are older. I often turn them out for the day. Not allowed to cross the super busy street though… People go like 60 and there are no sidewalks or crosswalks. Luckily all their friends live in the neighborhood.

#1529

Nope, you are a parent - a good one. Letting kids learn for themselves without needing to manage every aspect of their lives. I suspect that your kids would do a lot better in @Nabiki’s class :slight_smile:

And yes, thanks, that is probably the term I was looking for. I still think it’s stupid :laughing:

#1530

Sounds like it was made up by someone crunchy.

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#1531

The area I was in, we took the bus to school. However, when I had to stay late for music practice on Friday, I would carry my double-bass on this route from the school to my home (across a busy highway), and then back again on Monday. They said it was too delicate to put on the bus. The bass was too delicate to put on the bus, but it was okay if a kid in grade 6-8 CARRIED IT that distance.

Yes, I grew up in a cemetery. My father was the caretaker of the property and we lived on an old farm house there. On the map, it would have been where the squarish building is near Albion Road.

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#1532

Jussie Smollet is a sign of what the world is today.

A) It’s who you know.
B) It’s how much money you have.
C) It’s how famous you are.
D) It’s your race. (Not White)
E) It’s your protected class membership.

That’s the real face of privilege.

All these together make you indestructible.

#1533

Honestly I quit following the Jussie Smollet case because I was sick of how much air time the media was devoting to it over things that actually matter. What’s going on now?

#1534

If I understand correctly, charges against Smollet were dropped. The case records have been sealed, but the city has requested something like $130,000 to cover the OT expenses of the investigation.

In other words, it’s currently clear as mud. There’s been theories that he’s somehow innocent or there’s something weird going on.

#1535

Rham Emanuel is pissed, the police chief is pissed. Some Michelle Obama staffer seems to have brokered some sort if contact between people. He’s Kamala Harris’s cousin or something.

I hadn’t heard about the bill.

He’s still claiming to be a victim. His lawyer got caught up in the Avenatto crap with Nike.

The kicker is his righteous indignation and insistence that he is the victim. Also his using this disproven faoe attack as an example of the problems in America. It’s that stupid fair but accurate thing.

#1536

I may be being cynical here, but I have to wonder if Mohammed Noor had been white instead of a Somali immigrant, whether he would ever have been investigated, let alone charged with murder.

I do think what he did was murder, but then I’ve also thought that about some of the other police shootings in recent years as well (not all of them, some have been justified).

#1537

Dude shoots from the passenger seat across the driver and kills a woman in a situation where he shouldn’t have even had his gun out. The best excuse they can come up with is that there was a loud noise…

Yeah, race doesn’t come into this. The police force tried to do some “extra” investigating, ie find some evidence she wasn’t clean.

Just because other people may have gotten away with something doesn’t mean this guy gets away with panicking and shooting someone.

#1538

It may be that it was so blatantly wrong that the police couldn’t cover it up. It may be that they didn’t try as hard to cover it up because the cop was a Somali immigrant. It may be that this particular police department doesn’t actually cover up their wrongdoings (though “The police force tried to do some “extra” investigating” suggests that’s not the case).
I don’t know what the case is here, but the fact that I even have doubts (and doubts based on historical evidence) is a pretty sad indictment.

#1539

That’s based on anecdotal, but not necessarily statistical data.

The most common unarmed person shot by police is a white male in his 30s-40s. Despite minorities interacting with police sometimes four times as often as white people,t hey account for about 30% of this type of shooting victim. White people underhit their expected percentage by 5% or so if I recall correctly. While hispanics,Asians, and “other” are extremely under represented.

I’d prefer they were all underrepresented. But, white cop shoots white man, or Hispanic cop shoots Asian man, or black woman shoots black man isn’t newsworthy.

These statistics are all from memory from a couple years ago. So I’m likely wrong on specific numbers, but while black people are shot out of proportion to their population it’s not like police don’t shoot everyone else too.

Also, these sorts of shootings tend to happen I’m urbam areas, which usually have larger concentrations of minorities.

I think it’s very worth looking into why it’s mostly premiddle aged white men and young black men who get shot. I’ve poked around before and it’s a rabbit hole.

Anyway, it looks like the blue line tried to protect this guy, but with all the additional pressure on police shootings, and frankly the situation caused it to break down.

I think police shoot too often. I think they are too scared,and end up shooting innocent people because of that. I think there needs to be better control.over the use of force, not just lethal force but in general. Tamir Rice should never have been shot for instance. But he didn’t die because he was black, he died because the cop was new and pumped up and terrified.

I don’t think we disagree too much, I just wanted to point out it’s not the 1950’s over here.

#1540

Actually, I don’t think we are disagreeing at all. I think it’s just that my post was a bit confused and badly written.
I wasn’t commenting so much about who gets shot, more about the fact that the police try to cover things up and protect their own in circumstances when they absolutely should not. And wondering if maybe they didn’t try too hard to cover up for Mohammed Noor because of the fact that he was an immigrant. I hesitate to say I’m happy to be proved wrong on that last point because they are still trying to do wrong.

#1541

Ahh, got it. Yeah, I’m thinking from the poking around that there are competing factions here. Some blue line uber alles folks, some gotta protect the image people, and some good lord get rid of this fast tracked diversity hire right now!